Astral Entity Attack
Chasmodai
31 May 2012
Moderators: Please move this post if you feel it was inappropriately placed. I wasn't sure where it should go and I searched for something similar but couldn't find anything.
Several months ago I unintentionally tethered myself to someone I was trying to help. I remote viewed into his house and sent him a large ball of light full of love and joy, as he was sad and needed to remember happiness. Things for him started to pick up and over the course of several weeks I began to care more for him but I wasn't sure how to deal with this connection. I tried severing it but I felt so sad when I did that I had to bring him back to me. I tried making a soap bubble like structure so that our energy fields were seperate but still connected but it still didn't feel right. I let it go like this for a while but I haven't been able to work as I usually do and I know that part of the reason is this inadequate dealing with our energy fields.
Night before last I broke the bubble and held him in my arms in my energy field. When I did though, I noticed a tear in my energy field, like a vacuum sucking out my light into the darkness. I had suspected many months ago that he might have been the victim of a psychic vampire because his energy is so low. I decided though, when I saw the tear, that I needed to find and deal with whatever was attacking him but I was not prepared for what I found.
I held him tight and searched deeper into the tear to find the origin and when I did, I noticed that he had a black object attached to his back. I pulled it off of him and when I did, it tried to attack me. This thing was somewhat humanoid, female, black, with the mouth of a hagfish and had claw like wings. It flew off his back and tried to fly in my face with its mouth open. I pushed it out of my light field, sealed up the hole and held my friend tight to me. I pushed us over and up into the vault of heaven and made a huge light field to protect us against the thing.
Last night I felt like I needed to try to maintain the protection but I could not focus. My mind wandered a bit and I suddenly found myself staring down at a pair of cowboy boots. When I looked up I saw some 'thing' wearing a gimp mask. I tried to make a light circle, do the LBRP, banish it, something, but I could not focus. I sensed black tendrils moving across my forehead and immediately covered myself in fire. My friend was not with me here. I was alone with the thing. It didn't feel like my fire was burning it, like it kept seeping into my circle. I had no concentration, I was so weak and tired and then I started having thoughts that were not my own and seeing things in two panes - One I knew as my own and the other I know is not my own. What's more is that at that moment, it seemed stronger than me.
I increased my fire, tried to feel great love, but couldn't shake it completely. The only thing I could do to feel at peace and safe was to go straight to my inner temple. I know though that I have to deal with it, and I feel like over all, I can effectively do so, but I also know that I have to deal with this connection between this man and I. I know that if I don't effectively do so, we are both subject to more attacks of this nature.
My request is two fold: how can I effectively deal with this connection between us and do you have any ideas for dealing with an attack of this nature?
Several months ago I unintentionally tethered myself to someone I was trying to help. I remote viewed into his house and sent him a large ball of light full of love and joy, as he was sad and needed to remember happiness. Things for him started to pick up and over the course of several weeks I began to care more for him but I wasn't sure how to deal with this connection. I tried severing it but I felt so sad when I did that I had to bring him back to me. I tried making a soap bubble like structure so that our energy fields were seperate but still connected but it still didn't feel right. I let it go like this for a while but I haven't been able to work as I usually do and I know that part of the reason is this inadequate dealing with our energy fields.
Night before last I broke the bubble and held him in my arms in my energy field. When I did though, I noticed a tear in my energy field, like a vacuum sucking out my light into the darkness. I had suspected many months ago that he might have been the victim of a psychic vampire because his energy is so low. I decided though, when I saw the tear, that I needed to find and deal with whatever was attacking him but I was not prepared for what I found.
I held him tight and searched deeper into the tear to find the origin and when I did, I noticed that he had a black object attached to his back. I pulled it off of him and when I did, it tried to attack me. This thing was somewhat humanoid, female, black, with the mouth of a hagfish and had claw like wings. It flew off his back and tried to fly in my face with its mouth open. I pushed it out of my light field, sealed up the hole and held my friend tight to me. I pushed us over and up into the vault of heaven and made a huge light field to protect us against the thing.
Last night I felt like I needed to try to maintain the protection but I could not focus. My mind wandered a bit and I suddenly found myself staring down at a pair of cowboy boots. When I looked up I saw some 'thing' wearing a gimp mask. I tried to make a light circle, do the LBRP, banish it, something, but I could not focus. I sensed black tendrils moving across my forehead and immediately covered myself in fire. My friend was not with me here. I was alone with the thing. It didn't feel like my fire was burning it, like it kept seeping into my circle. I had no concentration, I was so weak and tired and then I started having thoughts that were not my own and seeing things in two panes - One I knew as my own and the other I know is not my own. What's more is that at that moment, it seemed stronger than me.
I increased my fire, tried to feel great love, but couldn't shake it completely. The only thing I could do to feel at peace and safe was to go straight to my inner temple. I know though that I have to deal with it, and I feel like over all, I can effectively do so, but I also know that I have to deal with this connection between this man and I. I know that if I don't effectively do so, we are both subject to more attacks of this nature.
My request is two fold: how can I effectively deal with this connection between us and do you have any ideas for dealing with an attack of this nature?
R. Eugene Laughlin
31 May 2012
Chasmodai, on 31 May 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:
My request is two fold: how can I effectively deal with this connection between us and do you have any ideas for dealing with an attack of this nature?
Take comfort in the fact that the vast majority of people who have experiences such as you're describing come through them unscathed. Not unchanged mind you, but ultimately unharmed.
Deal with your connection to the man by communicating directly with him on a mundane level. Define your relationship clearly and the rest should fall into place on its own.
It's common for people who are sensitive to astral impressions to assume that astral events serve as a precursor to physical events. While there may be something to that in some cases, I suspect that more often it's events in the mundane world shaping the astral. Either way, the separation between the astral and the physical worlds isn't actually a real barrier; it's an artifact of our perceptual limitations. We necessarily perceive the physical and astral as different things because we’re just not capable of taking in the whole picture at once. But, so I believe, they really are all both part of an ultimately inseparable, utterly interconnected single thing. So take direct action in the physical world and the astral world will change along with it in the same direction. That is, make the physical world better and the astral counterparts will get better too.
Edited by R. Eugene Laughlin, 31 May 2012 - 03:13 PM.
Alice
31 May 2012
Eugene is right except in that there may not be a physical counterpart for this entity. Some take the position that spirit entities and the like are symbolic representation of real world relationships, objects, actions and so on. This is not always (and indeed usually is not) the case when facing such a well defined entity.
What is the nature of your experience with psychic combat? Your best bet would be the principle of "the best defense is a good offense."
May you find what you seek,
Alice
What is the nature of your experience with psychic combat? Your best bet would be the principle of "the best defense is a good offense."
May you find what you seek,
Alice
ChaosTech
01 Jun 2012
Teach this person basic energy work. Grounding, shielding, raising power, banishing, etc. Then you won't have to worry about his psychic energy level and astral baddies.
Alice
01 Jun 2012
Ah yes I forgot about that part. I was kind of in a hurry.
Having such a connection to another person can be a very good thing. Love always makes us vulnerable, but it can also be a source of tremendous strength.
Talk to your friend, figure out the nature of your relationship, and if appropriate embrace it and make it stronger. Let that exchange of energy strengthen both of you, and you will be far less vulnerable to attack from outside sources.
May you find what you seek,
Alice
Having such a connection to another person can be a very good thing. Love always makes us vulnerable, but it can also be a source of tremendous strength.
Talk to your friend, figure out the nature of your relationship, and if appropriate embrace it and make it stronger. Let that exchange of energy strengthen both of you, and you will be far less vulnerable to attack from outside sources.
May you find what you seek,
Alice
z0b
01 Jun 2012
Teaching the person basic protections will help depending on the skill and power of what you encountered basic protections are called basic for a reason beings that feed off of energy human or spirit will keep attacking as long as theres food too be had onless it becomes too much trouble for them or the energy becomes tainted or bad or the source becomes drained dry then they move on.But now it found you so my advice would be too make your shielding into a drain field while making a contruct that will transsmute the taken energy from it so it cannot effect you. Phychic vampires often have trouble when they encounter anothers drain field which greatly weakens them in most cases.
The Stalking Hyena
01 Jun 2012
Sounds like you are taking it all on yourself. I don't know what your program is, but fervent appeals to a higher power on a regular basis might balance the scales - that is, not just LBRP, but a request for direct divine intervention. This may require a level of true humility that is often the sign of the acknowledgment of lessons learned.
Until the gimp masks go away, a pause in astral work might be a good idea. It just sounds to me like real grounding is required. I'm not talking about grounding through visualization - take a cold shower or lift some weights or something. It would be a big mistake to keep trying to meet such a gimp on it's own territory - it might be craftier than you suppose, until you can see its essence. If things get real bad, stock up on cold medicines.
Incidentally, a distinction could be drawn between "psychic vampires" and "astral vampires". By your description, your friend may be suffering from an astral vampire infection, which in turn makes him the psychic vampire. That is, your friend is like a straw through which the slurpee of love you keep throwing at him is sucked. From what you say, the astral vamp locked on to you while you tried to interfere, and tried to infect you - really the best analogy is that of a virus. Like a virus, this is a fragmentary entity - either one he created or one that was drawn by his obssessions - and it will try to spread to you by infiltrating your visions, dreams, etc. The key to understanding this process is knowing the dangers of obsession - parasitic beings lock on to the darker centers of the mind where obsessions are rooted. These can lead to various compulsions from which such creatures take their nourishment from (manifest in things you probably would not want to know about this person), and it is much yummier when others get involved and join the drama.
Then there is the issue of real compassion vs. pity. They can be easy to confuse, especially in a world where much of our social interactions and measure of heart is based on guilt. In true compassion there is no guilt, only the recognition that we all suffer, we all suck - the "whole world is an aeon of hell" as a Zennist once said - and that the best thing we can do is try not to make things worse for eachother. Where pity is not a condescension, it is like trying to help a drowning man who could easily pull you under with him, no matter how good a swimmer you are. So, seeing Venus in in retrograde right now, a firm evaluation of which is more important - your health or his "happiness" is in order. Here is where the cold weight of an exalted Saturn must be like a gavel in a courtroom. I don't know all the dynamics involved aside from what you said, but have you ever tried to cure an alcoholic?
You can't do it. We are each personally responsible for our own salvation.
Until the gimp masks go away, a pause in astral work might be a good idea. It just sounds to me like real grounding is required. I'm not talking about grounding through visualization - take a cold shower or lift some weights or something. It would be a big mistake to keep trying to meet such a gimp on it's own territory - it might be craftier than you suppose, until you can see its essence. If things get real bad, stock up on cold medicines.
Incidentally, a distinction could be drawn between "psychic vampires" and "astral vampires". By your description, your friend may be suffering from an astral vampire infection, which in turn makes him the psychic vampire. That is, your friend is like a straw through which the slurpee of love you keep throwing at him is sucked. From what you say, the astral vamp locked on to you while you tried to interfere, and tried to infect you - really the best analogy is that of a virus. Like a virus, this is a fragmentary entity - either one he created or one that was drawn by his obssessions - and it will try to spread to you by infiltrating your visions, dreams, etc. The key to understanding this process is knowing the dangers of obsession - parasitic beings lock on to the darker centers of the mind where obsessions are rooted. These can lead to various compulsions from which such creatures take their nourishment from (manifest in things you probably would not want to know about this person), and it is much yummier when others get involved and join the drama.
Then there is the issue of real compassion vs. pity. They can be easy to confuse, especially in a world where much of our social interactions and measure of heart is based on guilt. In true compassion there is no guilt, only the recognition that we all suffer, we all suck - the "whole world is an aeon of hell" as a Zennist once said - and that the best thing we can do is try not to make things worse for eachother. Where pity is not a condescension, it is like trying to help a drowning man who could easily pull you under with him, no matter how good a swimmer you are. So, seeing Venus in in retrograde right now, a firm evaluation of which is more important - your health or his "happiness" is in order. Here is where the cold weight of an exalted Saturn must be like a gavel in a courtroom. I don't know all the dynamics involved aside from what you said, but have you ever tried to cure an alcoholic?
You can't do it. We are each personally responsible for our own salvation.
Alice
01 Jun 2012
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You can't do it. We are each personally responsible for our own salvation.
As a therapist, I feel this idea must be expanded upon.
Each of us is indeed responsible for our own salvation so to speak, and there can be little progress without personal accountability. It is for the same reasons nearly impossible to help anyone who does not want to be helped (though you can help them to want to improve first). However, for those who do want to better themselves, sometimes a little support can work wonders. Realizing you have a problem and seeking out people able to help you handle it is a form of self help and accountability. Has your friend done this?
No, you can't cure an alcoholic, but many alcoholics have cured themselves, who could only do it by going to AA meetings.
May you find what you seek,
Alice
z0b
01 Jun 2012
I agree with Alice you cannot change people only they can choose or not choose too change.About the being attacking you the advice I gave above should solve that part of the problem.
Adumbra
02 Jun 2012
As long as you interfere with this entity's parasitism, it is likely to keep attacking you. What you describe, right down to the entity's appearence, is nearly identical to one I had to deal with years ago. If this one behaves like that one, it will attempt to drain your aura and bring you down emotionally with repeated provocations until you are too weak to resist it, at which point you will become its next meal.
The only way I was able to get rid of mine was to -- get this -- IGNORE IT! I know that sounds crazy, but it worked for me. These little bastards thrive on your attention and the negative emotions that follow from that attention. If you don't allow yourself to succumb to negative emotions the little leech will eventually become starved for nourishment and find some other, less positive person, to sink its teeth into. I bet your friend was already a pretty depressed person before this thing found him so the only way to free him would be to train him to control his thoughts. I recommend that he learn to meditate, but also have fun. Anything he can do to put himself in a better mood is justified whether it be meditation, masturbation, or watching Family Guy.
The only way I was able to get rid of mine was to -- get this -- IGNORE IT! I know that sounds crazy, but it worked for me. These little bastards thrive on your attention and the negative emotions that follow from that attention. If you don't allow yourself to succumb to negative emotions the little leech will eventually become starved for nourishment and find some other, less positive person, to sink its teeth into. I bet your friend was already a pretty depressed person before this thing found him so the only way to free him would be to train him to control his thoughts. I recommend that he learn to meditate, but also have fun. Anything he can do to put himself in a better mood is justified whether it be meditation, masturbation, or watching Family Guy.
Alice
02 Jun 2012
Feeding on the parasite also works if you can stomach it. From time to time I put one of them to work.
May you find what you seek,
Alice
May you find what you seek,
Alice
Chasmodai
04 Jun 2012
Thank you all for replying.
What's more is that he's a Gemini and his birthday is tomorrow, June 4th, which is also a full moon and the same day as the Gemini-Sagittarius eclipse. I'm a Sagittarius and my birthday is Dec. 5th, which is 182 days or 6 months exactly opposite his. I found him the day before the G-S eclipse in December. There is one more eclipse in this cycle in November and then that's it for 20 years. I've been observing how these eclipses effect my life for the past year, even before I met him, but finding someone whose chart is in direct opposition to mine like this, during the time of these eclipses, has been extraordinary.
Edited years between cycles of Gemini-Sagittarius eclipses
Edited by Chasmodai, 04 June 2012 - 06:44 PM.
The Stalking Hyena, on 01 June 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:
So, seeing Venus in in retrograde right now, a firm evaluation of which is more important - your health or his "happiness" is in order. Here is where the cold weight of an exalted Saturn must be like a gavel in a courtroom.
What's more is that he's a Gemini and his birthday is tomorrow, June 4th, which is also a full moon and the same day as the Gemini-Sagittarius eclipse. I'm a Sagittarius and my birthday is Dec. 5th, which is 182 days or 6 months exactly opposite his. I found him the day before the G-S eclipse in December. There is one more eclipse in this cycle in November and then that's it for 20 years. I've been observing how these eclipses effect my life for the past year, even before I met him, but finding someone whose chart is in direct opposition to mine like this, during the time of these eclipses, has been extraordinary.
Edited years between cycles of Gemini-Sagittarius eclipses
Edited by Chasmodai, 04 June 2012 - 06:44 PM.
Spraypaint
04 Jun 2012
Adumbra, on 02 June 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:
As long as you interfere with this entity's parasitism, it is likely to keep attacking you. What you describe, right down to the entity's appearence, is nearly identical to one I had to deal with years ago. If this one behaves like that one, it will attempt to drain your aura and bring you down emotionally with repeated provocations until you are too weak to resist it, at which point you will become its next meal.
I bet your friend was already a pretty depressed person before this thing found him so the only way to free him would be to train him to control his thoughts. I recommend that he learn to meditate, but also have fun. Anything he can do to put himself in a better mood is justified whether it be meditation, masturbation, or watching Family Guy.
I bet your friend was already a pretty depressed person before this thing found him so the only way to free him would be to train him to control his thoughts. I recommend that he learn to meditate, but also have fun. Anything he can do to put himself in a better mood is justified whether it be meditation, masturbation, or watching Family Guy.
I often found what spirits are drawn to one self are often a reflection of one's own inner state.
For example, right now I'm in need of emotional connection with others. Which isnt happening cause everyone I ever knew moved away. This is resulted in water based spirits coming to me, to mess with me. So far I turned one to my side. Now its a question of dealing with the other.
By addressing the emotional needs one has, these things wouldn't come around in the 1st place. If for whatever reason these feelings cannot be addressed, then figuring out how to put such emotions to positive use (or transmuting them into something else) is key.
Edited by Spraypaint, 04 June 2012 - 03:41 AM.
jes
04 Jun 2012
Good insight Spraypaint.
Try to understand its nature. If it is too aggressive or it is painful to endure calm yourself in whatever way you see fit. You can use different techniques and see what each revels about the nature of the spirit. LBRP, ritual bath, breathing meditations, or whatever source of spiritual insight you like. Try to choose something that calms you or makes you feel safe. Ask questions in your mind and don't your attention waver from the entity.
If all this fail you and you are not able to take it on, turn it away by straight up telling it to get out or 'lull it to sleep' by calming it to a point where you can ignore it. Over the next few days do intensive spiritual work and return to trying to understand and solve the problem of the entity.
Try to understand its nature. If it is too aggressive or it is painful to endure calm yourself in whatever way you see fit. You can use different techniques and see what each revels about the nature of the spirit. LBRP, ritual bath, breathing meditations, or whatever source of spiritual insight you like. Try to choose something that calms you or makes you feel safe. Ask questions in your mind and don't your attention waver from the entity.
If all this fail you and you are not able to take it on, turn it away by straight up telling it to get out or 'lull it to sleep' by calming it to a point where you can ignore it. Over the next few days do intensive spiritual work and return to trying to understand and solve the problem of the entity.
Spraypaint
04 Jun 2012
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Good insight Spraypaint.
I may not know much, yet when I do claim to know something, its due to experience and an unpleasant one at that.
If you need an means to banish, here is one I used to ward off an attack froma parasite:
http://occultcorpus....orks-banishing/
Them snap poppers you throw on the ground work just as well.
If you can get the sigil of the entity, well there are many ways to day with that.
Mine was print multiple copies of it and tear them up.
Hurts the SOBs, but the main thing is learn how to deny them energy.
Edited by Spraypaint, 04 June 2012 - 07:29 AM.
jes
04 Jun 2012
Spraypaint, on 04 June 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:
It may be called insight but I call it knowledge learned the hard way.
I may not know much, yet when I do claim to know something, its due to experience and an unpleasant one at that.
I may not know much, yet when I do claim to know something, its due to experience and an unpleasant one at that.
How else do you learn? : P
I wasn't talking about a personal quality, I meant useful knowledge
Spraypaint
04 Jun 2012
The Stalking Hyena
04 Jun 2012
Chasmodai, on 04 June 2012 - 03:09 AM, said:
What's more is that he's a Gemini and his birthday is tomorrow, June 4th, which is also a full moon and the same day as the Gemini-Sagittarius eclipse. I'm a Sagittarius and my birthday is Dec. 5th, which is 182 days or 6 months exactly opposite his. I found him the day before the G-S eclipse in December. There is one more eclipse in this cycle in November and then that's it for 8 years. I've been observing how these eclipses effect my life for the past year, even before I met him, but finding someone whose chart is in direct opposition to mine like this, during the time of these eclipses, has been extraordinary.
That certainly sounds extraordinary - if you get rid of the gimp. I hope that is working out for you. From what you describe, it sounds like you are like tethered in some kind of "synchronistic opposition" with him or something - which gives you something in common (or rather, "complementary") in an astral sense, though I am not sure about the tensions. Have you worked up a mutual chart comparing both your aspects? House situations might be telling.
Eclipses also affect everyone else as well, so watch out for cannibals.
But more to you, given the qualities involved, have you considered what the effects will be on you (both) when Jupiter enters Gemini?
Chasmodai
04 Jun 2012
The Stalking Hyena, on 04 June 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:
That certainly sounds extraordinary - if you get rid of the gimp. I hope that is working out for you. From what you describe, it sounds like you are like tethered in some kind of "synchronistic opposition" with him or something - which gives you something in common (or rather, "complementary") in an astral sense, though I am not sure about the tensions. Have you worked up a mutual chart comparing both your aspects? House situations might be telling.
Eclipses also affect everyone else as well, so watch out for cannibals.
But more to you, given the qualities involved, have you considered what the effects will be on you (both) when Jupiter enters Gemini?
Eclipses also affect everyone else as well, so watch out for cannibals.
But more to you, given the qualities involved, have you considered what the effects will be on you (both) when Jupiter enters Gemini?
I'm taking a multi-path approach to dealing with the gimp - even had a super sensitive empath clean my house the other day. That is not all though.
Interesting suggestion regarding the houses. We share 13 aspects touching on the 9th house, which the Sun, Mercury, and Venus all govern.
Jupiter is coming into Gemini on June 11, which is always good for me and will be extra great for him since it's in Gemini - but it also rules my house of marriage and committed relationships, so we shall what tomorrow holds, literally, once the eclipse has passed.


