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vives gladio

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In Topic: The Nature Of Spirit (In Generalized Ceremonial Magic)

24 May 2019 - 02:44 AM

The closest thing to an interaction with a spiritual entity that I can point to was not initiated on my part.

This occurred roughly 20 years ago. A friend and I had frequently visited a local pond. It was one of the few interesting places in walking distance available to our limited means.
One day, we were goofing about and simultaneously experienced a distinct sense of GTFO. There was nothing subtle about it, we looked at each other and both knew without speaking that it was time to go. There was nothing either of us could attribute the sensation to outside of a kind of superstitious notion that we did something to piss off the pond / whatever was hanging out around the pond. From my own experience t was a clear idea that I needed to be somewhere else. The sensation persisted for a good distance. Really the best description I can make is an instinctual level sensation of "Don't Be Here.". It was very unpleasant and I can still recall the strength of it just recalling the experience. Obviously I cannot attribute this with certainty to a spiritual experience, but that's the best explanation I can think of especially considering that the impression was substantiated by a guy standing right next to me experiencing near as I can tell the same thing. It came on suddenly, and dissipated gradually. After we both reached a point where the feeling subsided, we turned back and did not experience a re-occurrence however the experience was such that neither of us felt compelled to return to the spot for several weeks, maybe months.

From that, I can wrap my head around the idea of a certain locality having a spiritual presence or at least being a location of spiritual interest. I can't speak to the permanency or persistence of the entity or its interest in the location, the experience was not repeated. Subsequent visits did not either generate a sense of being especially welcome or really any other particular sensation either alone or with the friend in question.

I am not sure what my buddy was into at the time, but I certainly didn't do anything on my own part to summon or call forth a spirit that I can think of, so I am inclined to lean towards a certain independence of spirit from active magical operations based on my anecdotal experience.

In Topic: The Nature Of Spirit (In Generalized Ceremonial Magic)

19 May 2019 - 03:05 PM

I guess there's two possible ways to look at this if I understand what you are getting at.

I flick my lighter and summon Fire. Ten minutes later I do it again. I have manifested two distinct instances of Fire.
Before I struck the flint against the steel, there was no Fire. After I released the fuel supply, the Fire that was has ceased to be. The Fire is gone and no longer exists.

I scoop a cup of Water from a basin. I pour the Water back into the basin.
Before I filled my cup, the Water was somewhere else. After I poured it out, it returned from whence I drew it. The Water still exists even though it is no longer in my cup. It is somewhere else again. I can draw the same Water later.

In Topic: A Challenge For The Would-Be Christian Mystic

12 May 2019 - 08:34 PM

I will check it out, I've gotten good stuff here but not knowing if I will be able to reply the next day or a month out is problematic.

In Topic: A Challenge For The Would-Be Christian Mystic

09 May 2019 - 11:27 PM

The availability and accessibility of this forum leaves somewhat to be desired.

I have found the exercises to be beneficial in a general sense, positive results though I am not convinced I had the sort of profound experience that a comparison with the Abremalin operation implies. Unless of course that experience is very overblown and the reality doesn't align with the expectations. If the emperor really is naked, then perhaps the comparison is accurate.

Any exercise aids the slothful, any meal comforts the hungry.

Maybe you have to be really Catholic for this to detonate within your heart of hearts.

I'd encourage anyone to also attempt regardless, but I am a fan of structured approaches. It is beneficial in the sense of push-ups for the soul, but I don't feel as though I had some sort of transcendental spiritual experience or communion beyond what one could get out of any period of devotion.

In Topic: A Challenge For The Would-Be Christian Mystic

19 April 2019 - 05:20 PM

I would agree that it doesn't seem to require a solid Catholic background, however I am a little behind the curve on certain assumptions. I won't let that deter me. I can approach this sincerely and see what comes out the other side. I have no intention of giving it a perfunctory attempt, that would guarantee a lack of result.

In physical exercise, everything works to a greater or lesser extent once a couch potato gets moving, however good programs should have clearer results if followed and a more reliable path with a reduced likelihood of injury. Either at the end of a progression or at a certain interval you should have something to show, whether it be picking up heavier things or running further / faster.

I don't imagine that these exercises will have tangible or visible results, however there ought to be something tranformative or experiential to come out of it.

If you have a good recipe, assemble the ingredients and follow directions, then it stands to reason you end with something resembling a cake and not just a bowl of goop.