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Eres

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Abilities Promised By _Initiation Into Hermetics_

15 January 2019 - 01:19 AM

Practice-wise, I'm still working on step 1 in Initiation Into Hermetics, but I've started reading ahead to get an overall grasp of what the curriculum entails. In just the third stage (out of ten), it indicates that once you get sufficiently practiced with the techniques it presents, you can do things such as:
  • emitting light from yourself (enough to light up a dark room)
  • charging/impregnating a room with energy such that "if any person enters the room without permission, such a person will be thrown back with a paralyzing effect"
  • controlling sea creatures
  • generating such heat from your body that can melt the snow in an area around you
  • walking on water
  • levitation
Now, most magicians I've spoken to seem to indicate that real magic is rather subtle, dealing with probability manipulation and synchronicity and such. But these promised abilities are rather blatant and intense, things that would be extremely noticeable to the average observer... Is this book really just bullshitting me, or can any of you actually do things like this? Bear in mind, this isn't even advanced stuff, according to the book, since it's what I should be able to do after only advancing through the third step...

Bardon's Thought Discipline Exercise

01 April 2018 - 03:38 PM

I feel silly asking this because it's such a simple exercise, but...

In Initiation Into Hermetics, the second exercise is: "Retain one single thought or idea for a longer period of time while you steadfastly suppress all other thoughts which obtrusively try to join it. Select any idea or train of thought or any other suitable concept for this purpose at your own discretion. Retain this concept with all your power. Vigorously reject all other thoughts which have nothing to do with the one you are practicing."

I'm not really sure if I'm doing this right. The concept I picked is "discipline". During the exercise, I repeatedly subvocalize the word, while attempting to retain a visual image of a monk meditating, or if the written word itself.

I've found that I can easily maintain an auditory thought loop without giving it any attention, kind of like having a song stuck in your head. So I can actually continually hear "discipline" in my mind *while* thinking about something else entirely. So if nothing else, the consistency of my subvocalization isn't very indicative of successful thought discipline.

Am I picking a bad idea to mediate on? Should it instead be a train of thought, such that I can think about anything as long as it is discipline related? Should I try to quiet the subvocalization? Any other comments or suggestions?

Element Theory In "initiation Into Hermetics"

01 March 2018 - 05:10 AM

I started reading "Initiation Into Hermetics". The first part of it covers theory, primarily centered around the elemental principles.

I'm fine with the presentation of a theory for which there is no evidence. I can just assume that with sufficient experience with practice, I will encounter evidence first hand.

The problem in this case is that the theory just doesn't make any sense. I can't follow whatever reasoning he's presenting. I get a vague, possibly incorrect, sense of what the principles of Water and Fire are. For instance, one could think of a medium as Water and its content as Fire. Or a producer as Fire and a consumer as Water. But sometimes what he presents as a logical derivation just makes nonsensical leaps. His characterization of the elements often make two supposedly distinct elements indistinguishable. And he uses words in strange ways that are contextually unclear.

Is it supposed to make sense? How important is the theory? Can I just skip straight to the practice?