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#1 Logxi

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Posted 25 August 2018 - 02:57 PM

The other day I saw an old copy of the Lesser Key of Solomon (this version) in a secondhand bookstore. Coming from a chaos magick background myself, I have no experience with Ceremonial Magic. No immediate plans of using it either. I remember hearing magic-gone-wrong stories about secondhand grimoires. I haven't practiced at all in nearly a decade, so I'm not absolutely confident in my ability to banish right now. But I've never wanted any book as much as this one...

Any experiences, warnings, tips etc. would be greatly appreciated!

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Posted 25 August 2018 - 04:25 PM

To be honest it was always in Wiccan type circle I heard of cursed or guarded Ceremonial books. Yet in the ceremonial or high magical circles I moved in I never actually encountered anyone who ever encountered any book that had any sort of warding on it.

Realistically no one was going to magic up the book or put any special marks in the thing anyway. So it's probably a safe item to add to your collection.
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Posted 25 August 2018 - 04:52 PM

That version includes Crowley's curse (in Greek) to kill Samuel Mathers and undo his magical work. Mathers died of Spanish Flu along with tens of millions of others, but we got WWI after all.

The original Lemegeton only lays a curse on those who steal the book, and that page is usually omitted in print. Not sure if that works for pirate copies.
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Posted 26 August 2018 - 05:01 PM

A DeLaurence version, eh? I'd get it as a collectible, though I couldn't take it to Jamaica.
Looks like it's sold. Did you buy it?

On second hand books in general, I'd apply a little psychometry if I could hold it and thumb through it. I saw a locked glass case full of various old/used/expensive occult hardcovers at one of the major bookstores in my area. The vibes left my head spinning somewhat unpleasantly. And I could smell them (like, etherically).
And I hate it when prior owners underline stuff and make margin notes. I'm not going to pay $500 for a tome with odd stains on it scribbled with insensible gibberish when I can get a new one to mutilate for a fraction of the cost. Well, maybe I would if I was properly intrigued.

As far as "magic-gone-wrong with used books" stories, I'd love to hear a few. Sounds Lovecraftian.
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Posted 26 August 2018 - 10:24 PM

I used to collect "annotated" occult books, with margin doodles. Some note-makers were prolific, and I found their books in several different states. I also mark paperback books up, add margin cartoons, lots of scribbles in blue ink.

When I lived in Memphis, I met a man claiming AMORC and a high degree at that, but for some reason all of his monographs bore the distinct markings of another man who I knew was a valid initiate and who had passed away some years prior. His peculiar style of notation was easily recognized. It has got to be tough getting busted as a fake Rosicrucian by margin notes.
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