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#1 Curious Cat

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 01:13 PM

Occult Corpus like many other forums is constantly being subjected to spammers attempting to sign-up.

After your member account has been validated, your first two posts need to be approved. If you are a new member, please create a new introduction thread and reply to at least one post. After two of your posts have been approved, your posts no longer need moderator approval.

If you begin posting in an already existing thread before being approved twice, chances are that the moderators will not see your posts and the posts will not get approved.

If you have any questions, please feel free to private message a moderator or administrator.

#2 Curious Cat

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:02 PM

I believe that we lose members due to having to post twice and get approved by a moderator. I know that I find a second post from a member that was new that never was approved sometimes a year later. By that time the member is long gone.

How do you think we could improve it and still keep the forum spam-free for the most part?

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:20 PM

1. Make sure links in your forum are set to ‘nofollow’. This tells search engine crawlers not to follow the links and therfore, SEO spammers will derive no benefit from spamming your forum.

2. Make sure registration includes a CAPTCHA. Captcha’s are those slightly deformed images of words and you see on sign up pages. Captcha’s do a pretty good job of keeping out spam bots.

3. Require email confirmation before allowing someone to post. Bots and humans can get around this but it’s an extra bit of efforts that most real people won’t mind.

4. Enable anti-spam plugins. These plugins can automatically detect suspected spam based on links, IP addresses, email addresses and the comment itself. Keep in mind that these plugins are not 100% effective and do sometimes return false positives.

5. Don’t allow editing of comments after a few minutes have passed. A frequent trick used by spammers is to create a comment that doesn’t look out of place (For example: “This is a great post, very insightful.”) and then will come back after a couple of weeks and edit the comment to include spam links.

6. Get the whole community involved. Ask members to help out moderators and flag spam. In Vanilla, this can be done with the Spam Reaction.

7. Be ruthless. Moderators and admin should review the spam queue on a daily basis, ban spammers and delete all their content.

8. Only allow members that have proven themselves and have a reputation to be allowed to post links.

9. Provide information on advertising and partnering opportunities you might offer and make it clear in your community guidelines what
is and what is not acceptable promotion. This can help with accidental spammers who are trying to legitimately sell something to your audience.

I'm not sure I agree with 8, also I know one Occult Forum that does IP bans on problem countries.

Edited by Spida, 23 August 2017 - 12:22 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 01:39 PM

View PostCurious Cat, on 11 August 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

I believe that we lose members due to having to post twice and get approved by a moderator. I know that I find a second post from a member that was new that never was approved sometimes a year later. By that time the member is long gone.

How do you think we could improve it and still keep the forum spam-free for the most part?
What Spida advises above looks the answer to the potential spam problem.

How about the new member being required to PM a Mod after the second post for approval?

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 09:18 AM

View Postvioletstar, on 23 August 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

What Spida advises above looks the answer to the potential spam problem.

How about the new member being required to PM a Mod after the second post for approval?

If it was my Site I would be deleting those bogus accounts manually, everyday, until I figured a way to keep them from getting in.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 12:01 AM

View PostSpida, on 24 August 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

If it was my Site I would be deleting those bogus accounts manually, everyday, until I figured a way to keep them from getting in.

I do. I think if we update the software, it will be easier to implement some of the suggestions you proposed.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

I think people wanting to post here have a reason (otherwise they could just read without a registration). Either they want help or to share ideas.

Even a spammer has a reason to post. But to what extend would such a person go to post a link for pirated shoes or pharmacy.
As far as I know a spammer is someone who is finically in a rather tight corner. So time is of the essence. She is paid per posted link (if at all).

So why not have a potential new member write two or three lines on herself and/or why she wants to join the forum. A mod does not even have to read this. A person being able to write two or three sentences in coherent english can't be a weird asian spammer. Even someone being able to do this would not really be interested to make up a story just to post one link in a forum. To much work.

Finally someone who has a product to sell and knowing it is good would take the time to find the right place. And if such a forum is fitting (which would make it a total niche product) this perosn would not risk a bad reputation by spamming this rare place.

That is my take on it.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:47 PM

I'd be interesed in how much "spam" spam (aka stuff that is compleatly off, like the mentioned pharmacy, vapeware or clothing) and how much spam, like occult related but unwanted advertisement is put in the forum. Is there a ratio?

#9 Curious Cat

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 01:41 AM

There are on average about 70 Eurasian spam accounts per day that are registered to the site. If they happen to slip through, they spam complete crap that you never see since it doesn't become approved. It could be worse I suppose.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 04:28 PM

There are real problems on the site.I am only able to access OC through a temporary proxy server which I am using to post this otherwise the site is not accessible to me.

I assume my IP has been classed as a spam account.Thats all I can think.Perhaps this is why there are so few new members arriving as their registration attempts have been classed as spam.

I got a new IP generated but when I punch the site in on any browser I just get a domain page.

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#11 violetstar

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 05:34 PM

Well I am suddenly back! Thanks to whoever fixed it!

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 06:32 PM

I had the same problem. It happens from time to time with Occult Corpus.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 06:36 PM

The spam destroyer takes no prisoners!

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 07:41 PM

I don't think it had anything to do with spam, for I couldn't access the site at all; a blank page came up - it had something to do with an internet connection failure, I think.

Edited by Orlando, 16 September 2017 - 08:37 AM.


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 07:53 PM

Internet was fine,I could only use one proxy-the rest were blocked too!

There is an issue with the Blog as well.When I tried to put one up,it places it at the side panel as a recent entry.It will not let me delete so I have a duplicate there!

My friend has registered to join but she logged in and it said awaiting validation.When she tried to log in the next day it said Username does not exist..so I think she was classed as spam?

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#16 violetstar

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 08:46 PM

Just when I thought it over...I have been blocked again.I am back on free proxy but I am fed up with this.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 08:53 AM

View Postvioletstar, on 15 September 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

My friend has registered to join but she logged in and it said awaiting validation.When she tried to log in the next day it said Username does not exist..so I think she was classed as spam?

There is one forum I tried to join and it wont let me. I think it has something to do with my e-mail address; I have one separate email account with a pseudonym, which I only use for registering with for all my different forums accounts. I think it is the wording of the email address that is the problem, though it is only this one particular forum, another occult forum, that won't let me join. I'll have to try again; the last time I tried was over two years ago.

Edited by Orlando, 16 September 2017 - 08:54 AM.


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Posted 16 September 2017 - 09:44 AM

I think my situation is resolved though not sure what happened.Obviously Gremlins!

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 11:55 AM

Orlando and Violetstar, whatever the reason for you not being able to access the forum, I am sure the issue will be resolved. Please take into account that the moderators come here in their free time. This is not their workplace. This forum is a product of love and passion for the occult and for the people who want to participate. So the problem of spam, which originally was adressed here, is a huge factor which delays all other issue which occur and only add to the pile.

So if you have to wait for one or two days, this means the people who work for you for free took a little time with their family and maybe with sleep. So please bear with them and all will be well.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 11:56 AM

View Postvioletstar, on 16 September 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

I think my situation is resolved though not sure what happened.Obviously Gremlins!

Well good for you, because now I can't access the site without a Proxy.





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