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[son of dhamma]

"Eighty One Gods will come unto you.

Nine gods of nine will come."

In a dream, something forgotten was revealed to me. The Eighty One. I can't say much about them, or what cultures have recognized the Eighty One in our history. But I do know that we've known them before.

Eighty One gods, an exclusive court of gods who each serve a purpose of their own. The "you" in the quote refers to the earth, not an individual. And the nine of nine refers to nine houses of nine gods each. Moreover, it was known that 30 of these gods were wind gods. Why thirty of them are wind gods, I can't say. The man in the dream told me this.

Me, the person in the dream I was, then posed a question along the lines of, "what if we've labeled some of them wrongly?" Unfortunately most of the information in the dream I've forgotten. It's important that I remember it, but I've been unable to.

However, I know that there are at least three or four other speakers of the Eighty One out there, and I'm betting on the whisper of a dream of a hope that they'll hear this. I can also say that all these gods shared a common enemy, a very mysterious character I don't know much about. Some of the gods are more helpful that others, some of them seeming to be outright unlikable.

I've only been able to recognize a few of the Eighty One Gods. There is He Who Rustles the Leaves of Trees, and She Who Blows in the Night, and She Who Soars Above the Mountain, three of the specified 30 wind gods. There is also God of Hundred Butterflies or Him of the Many Butterflies, and He Who Plays the Flute in Solitude, and Him Who is Willingly Bound in Chains with No Heart. He Who Rides Upon a Cloud, Him Who Makes Thunder as He Walks. One Who has Many Wings--I think eight. He Who Sees Very Far Things, and She Who Hears Secrets. The Apple Tree Man. The Storyteller. He Who Catches Men with His Net. Lady of Many Cats.

Some of them are male, some female, some of them apparently can become both at will, and others have no apparent sex. Many of them are represented as animals, some of them very strangely, and others are almost completely human in shape. However it is made very clear that none of them are without their own God Name, or Title or Authority, which designates them as the gods they are and gives them power, which they gained through some mysterious event called a trial or a tribulation or something in that sense. Throughout culture they have appeared and after some sort of "blighting" only some of them were remembered throughout ancient cultures.


Wind Turtle.

Edited by son of dhamma, 26 May 2012 - 12:55 AM.

[The Stalking Hyena]

Oops. I sincerely apologize! I meant to add a reputation point but I clicked the wrong one on accident. The darn thing doesn't opt me to give it back. Probably because Gremlins is on.
Anyway, this was truly an interesting read. I can't help but be reminded of Enochian meanings of names and the governors of the parts of the Earth.
Again, sorry for the wrong click. You can take one away from me if you want.

[The Stalking Hyena]

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

I find that number interesting and somehow I am reminded of The Nine, especially in the way your communication sounds.

Don't know if this will be of any use or even interest you but in Sepher Sephiroth Crowley has the first meaning of the number 81 as GODS (in all capitals like that). 81 is also a very lunar number being the "Mystic Number of the Moon", the Kamea of Luna (with 81 squares) as well as the number of Witchcraft. This is the reason Crowley attached it to Liber LXXXI: The Butterfly Net, aka Moonchild.

[son of dhamma]

Nalyd Khezr Bey, on 27 May 2012 - 12:53 AM, said:

I find that number interesting and somehow I am reminded of The Nine, especially in the way your communication sounds.

Don't know if this will be of any use or even interest you but in Sepher Sephiroth Crowley has the first meaning of the number 81 as GODS (in all capitals like that). 81 is also a very lunar number being the "Mystic Number of the Moon", the Kamea of Luna (with 81 squares) as well as the number of Witchcraft. This is the reason Crowley attached it to Liber LXXXI: The Butterfly Net, aka Moonchild.

I found on the internet that in ancient Egyptian spiritualism they mention 81 gods, nine each of nine groups. So that would mean Crowley didn't write the first reference to them.

[son of dhamma]

I guess not many people understand this.

[Spraypaint]

son of dhamma, on 13 August 2012 - 08:54 PM, said:

I guess not many people understand this.

No one understands the world, experiences existence or thinks exactly like you do and vice versa. Most of the time worlds apart. May it be the distance between moon and Earth or Sun and Pluto. We are still worlds apart.

Edited by Spraypaint, 13 August 2012 - 10:15 PM.

[son of dhamma]

Spraypaint, on 13 August 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

No one understands the world, experiences existence or thinks exactly like you do and vice versa. Most of the time worlds apart. May it be the distance between moon and Earth or Sun and Pluto. We are still worlds apart.

we all share the same stars.

[Reyn]

I won't claim to understand it, but I did come across reference to the 81 gods in a book the other day. Only 1 or 2 sentences. In reference to 9 frequencies of light, which I often use during meditation. It made me think of this post.

[Caliban]

Qabalistically speaking, 81 is the value by gematria of ALIM, אלים, literally "gods" or "mighty ones" (1 + 30 + 10 + 50, adding the numerical value of the letters). It varies from the divine name Elohim by omission of the feminine grammatical elements in that name, which is an unusual hybrid. Crowley therefore comments on it as a number and formula applying specifically to masculine elements of the divine - gods but not goddesses.

81 is of course 9 x 9, but also note that 8 + 1 also equals 9. The process of reducing words to a single digit is also a Qabalistic analytical trick, called notariqon.

9 is the number of the sephirah Yesod, Foundation, which can be seen as feminine in relation to the higher spheres, whose influences it gathers to itself, but it is masculine in relation to the world of manifestation, Malkuth, where these forces are distributed. The magical image of Yesod is therefore a naked, ithyphallic man, rather than the goddess imagery we tend to associate with the Moon.

I have no idea if any of this is remotely useful, but I thought it might be of interest.

[son of dhamma]

Reyn, on 27 August 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

I won't claim to understand it, but I did come across reference to the 81 gods in a book the other day. Only 1 or 2 sentences. In reference to 9 frequencies of light, which I often use during meditation. It made me think of this post.

Thanks. Do you want to share on that?

[Reyn]

There isn't much else to add, from what I remember. The passage was literally a reference to gaining access/heightening ones awareness of 81 Gods through working more closely with light - specifically the 9 of them. Your original post held one of those moments of recognition and connection, that obviously just stuck. I'll continue to think on it. If you have any more thoughts, I'd be curious to hear them