I think I'm gonna step out on a limb and try my first invocation here before too long to get the experience and knowledge under my belt (though not solely for the sake of it). I am thinking of invoking a love goddess for some help, though I am wary of invoking one that was promiscuous in myths and stories. Anyone have any suggestions for my first invocation? Also, I did a brief google search but didn't yield many results. Can anyone point me in the direction of finding a could primer for invocation?
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First of all. Read as much as you can about the godess you chose to invoke. The more you know, the better your link to the godess will be. Forget about most occult books. Read academic books about gods and godesses as they contain more valuable information than occult books provide. Too many occult books are full of errors and their own narrowminded views about gods and godesses, wishthinking and with too little information. Now I'm not saying all books but too many of them and academic books aren't without flaws, e.g. interpreted through a christianised worldview. And that is something many occult books suffer from too. "I am thinking of invoking a love goddess for some help, though I am wary of invoking one that was promiscuous in myths and stories." That is one reason why you should invoke one of those godessess. What is that you fear? Fear of the the female sexpower? Oh yes without any doubt. Christianity has learned men and women to fear the female power for too long. Invoking such a godess can help you to overcome that fear.
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That is one reason why you should invoke one of those godessess. What is that you fear? Fear of the the female sexpower? Oh yes without any doubt.
No. Fear of being cheated on-- yet again.
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First of all. Read as much as you can about the godess you chose to invoke. The more you know, the better your link to the godess will be.
Knowledge of the literature needs to be augmented with knowledge of self.
I also stress to students that knowledge of the real mythology of the entity is important. Even the academics have a particular point of view, and generally lack a believer's understanding of the underlying truth of the mythology.
In the case of invocation, you need to meditate on what the particular entity means to you. Start with the divine form (goddess or god) that hold the most meaning for you personally. Meditate on the stories of that entity for several days, or weeks, until you feel like they are a friend. That is the time to perform an invocation.
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You want to invoke a force or power or entity that embodies a quality which you feel the need to enhance in yourself. Invoking a love goddess, thus, would make you more loving and more desirous - not necessarily more loved and more desirable. Choose wisely.
I do not know a text source that covers invocation in any detail, that is not very specifically tailored to a particular practice, but I can supply a generalized method:
Begin with nightly meditation on the god in question, ideally before an image of that god (the one that best captures the feel of that god for you). This can even be a flat picture if that is what you have. For each observance, you should have a candle lit before the image (tea lights are fine). You may also want to make an offering of incense, and this again should be chosen as harmonious with the nature of the deity in question.
During your meditation, you want to focus on your reverence, love and admiration for the god, and all the ways that the force they represent manifests in your life. Give at least ten minutes nightly to this observation, more if you can and are moved to. End each observation with a brief but sincere prayer that you may grow daily closer to the god in question.
One or two weeks will usually be adequate for this preliminary observation.
Before you actually invoke, prepare the place of worship, thus:
Any items not relating to the god concerned should be put away, out of sight and ideally out of the room, though this will not always be practical. The area can be as small as the altar itself and space to stand before it. If at all possible, the image of your god should be at eye-level or above. In a pinch, eye level while you are kneeling will work, but ideally you do not want to look down at your god.
The area should be physically as clean as you can make it, and you should also bathe and be vested in clean clothes (that is, change into fresh clothes after you bathe), or better a robe of suitable color.
You should have a small table dressed with a cloth of appropriate color as an altar. On this should go the image of your deity, a candle, your incense, a small bowl of water, a small dish of salt and your Cup, containing a small amount of drink as a libation. Wine, mead, ale or so on, according to the preference of the god. There needs to be enough for you to have one good swallow, and more left over to pour out as an offering.
You will have composed (or found) a poetic passage praising your god, expressing gratitude for their gifts, and asking for them to indwell your heart as if it were a shrine dedicated to their reverence. This should be sincere, and phrased as harmoniously as you can accomplish, and written or printed out in letters clear enough to be read by the light of your candle if you do not have it memorized (which is better still)
Bathe and robe.
Enter your sanctuary, light the candle and the incense.
Take up the vessel of salt in your left hand, hold your right hand over it* and say something like,
"Creature of Earth, be thou blessed and consecrated to serve me in this rite, by the grace of ________."
The name of the god you will be invoking fills in the blank, of course.
Set the salt aside, but near at hand, and take up the bowl of water in your left hand, your right adding three small pinches of the blessed salt and then held over it* and say words to the effect of:
"Creature of Water, be thou blessed and consecrated to purify this space of all that is profane, by the grace of _________."
[*this supposes that you are, in fact, right handed. If not, hold it in your right, with your left over it].
You then want to lightly sprinkle your area with the blessed water, starting at the altar, turning clockwise, and finishing at the altar again.
Return the salt and water to their places, compose yourself in an attitude of reverence, and then deliver your oration in a clear, stately voice, and from the heart.
Mean it when you say it!
A general stance good for invocation is standing straight, arms held gently curved upward and outward, as if to form a cup to receive the divine presence, or to receive the embrace of someone a good deal bigger than you are.
When you have delivered your invocation, take up the Cup, in both hands, and hold it in front of your heart. Say something to the effect of:
"O, _______, Lord/Lady of [particular attribute, power, or domain of deity], deign to bless and to consecrate this [wine, ale, mead, etc.], I pray, that I may drink of thy benevolence. May it be so."
Salute the image of the god with your Cup, and drink, feeling the power of the deity inspire you, coming to rest in your heart.
This concludes the formal invocation. You may wish to pray or meditate for some time in the diving presence. When you have finished, bow to the image in courtesy, and beseech the continued favor and blessing of your god, and extinguish the candle.
The remaining drink in your cup should be poured out as an offering, onto the earth, preferably outside your own home.
I do not know a text source that covers invocation in any detail, that is not very specifically tailored to a particular practice, but I can supply a generalized method:
Begin with nightly meditation on the god in question, ideally before an image of that god (the one that best captures the feel of that god for you). This can even be a flat picture if that is what you have. For each observance, you should have a candle lit before the image (tea lights are fine). You may also want to make an offering of incense, and this again should be chosen as harmonious with the nature of the deity in question.
During your meditation, you want to focus on your reverence, love and admiration for the god, and all the ways that the force they represent manifests in your life. Give at least ten minutes nightly to this observation, more if you can and are moved to. End each observation with a brief but sincere prayer that you may grow daily closer to the god in question.
One or two weeks will usually be adequate for this preliminary observation.
Before you actually invoke, prepare the place of worship, thus:
Any items not relating to the god concerned should be put away, out of sight and ideally out of the room, though this will not always be practical. The area can be as small as the altar itself and space to stand before it. If at all possible, the image of your god should be at eye-level or above. In a pinch, eye level while you are kneeling will work, but ideally you do not want to look down at your god.
The area should be physically as clean as you can make it, and you should also bathe and be vested in clean clothes (that is, change into fresh clothes after you bathe), or better a robe of suitable color.
You should have a small table dressed with a cloth of appropriate color as an altar. On this should go the image of your deity, a candle, your incense, a small bowl of water, a small dish of salt and your Cup, containing a small amount of drink as a libation. Wine, mead, ale or so on, according to the preference of the god. There needs to be enough for you to have one good swallow, and more left over to pour out as an offering.
You will have composed (or found) a poetic passage praising your god, expressing gratitude for their gifts, and asking for them to indwell your heart as if it were a shrine dedicated to their reverence. This should be sincere, and phrased as harmoniously as you can accomplish, and written or printed out in letters clear enough to be read by the light of your candle if you do not have it memorized (which is better still)
Bathe and robe.
Enter your sanctuary, light the candle and the incense.
Take up the vessel of salt in your left hand, hold your right hand over it* and say something like,
"Creature of Earth, be thou blessed and consecrated to serve me in this rite, by the grace of ________."
The name of the god you will be invoking fills in the blank, of course.
Set the salt aside, but near at hand, and take up the bowl of water in your left hand, your right adding three small pinches of the blessed salt and then held over it* and say words to the effect of:
"Creature of Water, be thou blessed and consecrated to purify this space of all that is profane, by the grace of _________."
[*this supposes that you are, in fact, right handed. If not, hold it in your right, with your left over it].
You then want to lightly sprinkle your area with the blessed water, starting at the altar, turning clockwise, and finishing at the altar again.
Return the salt and water to their places, compose yourself in an attitude of reverence, and then deliver your oration in a clear, stately voice, and from the heart.
Mean it when you say it!
A general stance good for invocation is standing straight, arms held gently curved upward and outward, as if to form a cup to receive the divine presence, or to receive the embrace of someone a good deal bigger than you are.
When you have delivered your invocation, take up the Cup, in both hands, and hold it in front of your heart. Say something to the effect of:
"O, _______, Lord/Lady of [particular attribute, power, or domain of deity], deign to bless and to consecrate this [wine, ale, mead, etc.], I pray, that I may drink of thy benevolence. May it be so."
Salute the image of the god with your Cup, and drink, feeling the power of the deity inspire you, coming to rest in your heart.
This concludes the formal invocation. You may wish to pray or meditate for some time in the diving presence. When you have finished, bow to the image in courtesy, and beseech the continued favor and blessing of your god, and extinguish the candle.
The remaining drink in your cup should be poured out as an offering, onto the earth, preferably outside your own home.
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I prefer the Chaotic approach so may not be the best person to comment, but I can't more highly recommend sigil magick. Its efficiency and the speed in which it works is unbelievable at times. Like everything there can be hiccups along the way, but all I'll say is once you have a solid method [Check out Austin Osman Spare] things should flow easily. The only caveat is: by careful what you wish for. In terms of invokation too, I like to use certain names of Godforms around the sigil to help focus my will.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 05:55 PM
I've spent the time since my last post doing some research and thinking about what I want to achieve with this invocation.
Truth be told, the last six or so months have been the culmination of one of the biggest mental and emotional breakdowns I've ever had. I was betrayed and lied to by the one person I should have been able to trust the most: my ex-fiance. It caused me to lose my faith in things I used to think were true, good, and beautiful--love, sex, and women in general. As much as I hate to say it, I've become pretty cynical when it comes to those topics. She still holds a place in my heart, whether I want her to or not and whether I hold a place in hers or not. But it's something I've come to hate myself for, something I hate her for. There are times when I want nothing more than for her to show up at my doorstep and jump into my arms, and then there are times when I wish I could just forget her and forget the fact that I spent two years of my life (and at 20, that's a good chunk of time) believing something was there when maybe it really wasn't. Or maybe it was there, and she just forgot it when she went off into the navy. I scoff at the saying, "If you love something, let it go. If it comes back, it was meant to be. If not, it never was." Well, I loved something, so I let it go. She came back. And then deserted me again.
Sorry about venting, but the point was to say this: I want to reverse all of that. I want to be given a reason to again have faith in the things I used to. I'm not quite sure whether I want to use the invocation to ask for help in reviving the emotional and physical connection I once shared with my ex, or whether I want to ask for help in bringing something completely new into my life. Honestly, both sound like pretty desirable possibilities. I may just go broad and ask for favor and help in my romantic pursuits in the time to come.
In my search for a god(dess) to invoke, I've searched mainly within four different pantheons: Greek, Germanic, Celtic/Irish, and Egyptian. Out of those pantheons, I've selected Eros (Greek), Freya (Norse), Angus Og (Celtic), and Branwen (Celtic) as possibilities. Isis might be included in that list, particularly because of her devotion and loyalty to her husband after his murder. Though I do not know if love is one of her specialties (some lists include her as a love goddess, while others do not). I am trying to find a god(dess) who most embodies the qualities of true romantic love in combination with sexual passion, who displays the qualities of fidelity. That is the main reason I've shied away from the obvious option of Aphrodite/Venus, particularly because her stories are rampant with infidelity and illicit love affairs, something I don't desire to suffer through again.
I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience with any of the god(desses) I mentioned (Eros, Freya, Angus Og, Branwen, and possibly Isis) in this nature of working, and if so, where the results particularly favorable?
Truth be told, the last six or so months have been the culmination of one of the biggest mental and emotional breakdowns I've ever had. I was betrayed and lied to by the one person I should have been able to trust the most: my ex-fiance. It caused me to lose my faith in things I used to think were true, good, and beautiful--love, sex, and women in general. As much as I hate to say it, I've become pretty cynical when it comes to those topics. She still holds a place in my heart, whether I want her to or not and whether I hold a place in hers or not. But it's something I've come to hate myself for, something I hate her for. There are times when I want nothing more than for her to show up at my doorstep and jump into my arms, and then there are times when I wish I could just forget her and forget the fact that I spent two years of my life (and at 20, that's a good chunk of time) believing something was there when maybe it really wasn't. Or maybe it was there, and she just forgot it when she went off into the navy. I scoff at the saying, "If you love something, let it go. If it comes back, it was meant to be. If not, it never was." Well, I loved something, so I let it go. She came back. And then deserted me again.
Sorry about venting, but the point was to say this: I want to reverse all of that. I want to be given a reason to again have faith in the things I used to. I'm not quite sure whether I want to use the invocation to ask for help in reviving the emotional and physical connection I once shared with my ex, or whether I want to ask for help in bringing something completely new into my life. Honestly, both sound like pretty desirable possibilities. I may just go broad and ask for favor and help in my romantic pursuits in the time to come.
In my search for a god(dess) to invoke, I've searched mainly within four different pantheons: Greek, Germanic, Celtic/Irish, and Egyptian. Out of those pantheons, I've selected Eros (Greek), Freya (Norse), Angus Og (Celtic), and Branwen (Celtic) as possibilities. Isis might be included in that list, particularly because of her devotion and loyalty to her husband after his murder. Though I do not know if love is one of her specialties (some lists include her as a love goddess, while others do not). I am trying to find a god(dess) who most embodies the qualities of true romantic love in combination with sexual passion, who displays the qualities of fidelity. That is the main reason I've shied away from the obvious option of Aphrodite/Venus, particularly because her stories are rampant with infidelity and illicit love affairs, something I don't desire to suffer through again.
I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience with any of the god(desses) I mentioned (Eros, Freya, Angus Og, Branwen, and possibly Isis) in this nature of working, and if so, where the results particularly favorable?
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 06:34 PM
Astarte is excellent for love and passion that lasts a long time. I called upon her and the Daemon Rosier (Rosier is a very sweet and gentle Daemon) - then I found my soulmate two days later.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:14 PM
Did you invoke or evoke the two of them?
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OK, i'm new to this forum and somewhat new to magick, so please bear with me.
Well, out of the list of deities you'd looked at, I'd personally choose Isis.
In the Egyptian myths, she is definitely the embodiment of fidelity and love. She not only stands faithful in attaining justice for her husband after his death, but she protects her son and ensures he receives the place as rightful king after her husband's death.
Meditate over it, and keep us updated.
Well, out of the list of deities you'd looked at, I'd personally choose Isis.
In the Egyptian myths, she is definitely the embodiment of fidelity and love. She not only stands faithful in attaining justice for her husband after his death, but she protects her son and ensures he receives the place as rightful king after her husband's death.
Meditate over it, and keep us updated.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:58 AM
I would second gracesong's suggestion, and not only because I feel the greatest affinity for, and ability to relate to, the Egyptian pantheon! 
Isis is indeed an embodiment of romantic fidelity in the myths of Egypt; her care for her husband Osiris, even going so far as to track down his dismembered body parts and reconstitute his body so that he can reborn after Set tears him to shreds, is a perfect example of this exemplary loyalty.
Take care,
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Isis is indeed an embodiment of romantic fidelity in the myths of Egypt; her care for her husband Osiris, even going so far as to track down his dismembered body parts and reconstitute his body so that he can reborn after Set tears him to shreds, is a perfect example of this exemplary loyalty.
Take care,
Adam
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:14 PM
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You don't need to invoke a love aspect, you need a Mars aspect to find you balls and spine so you can dump the cheating slut.
You don't need to invoke a love aspect, you need a Mars aspect to find you balls and spine so you can dump the cheating slut.
Perhaps what is needed is a balancing of both the love-attractive energies and the firm Mars energies, perhaps in tandem with reflection on what might have prompted the cheatings, especially being willing to look at aspects of oneself and one's own behaviour that might have influenced the situation. Perhaps being too clingy or too distant, too ignorant of the other's needs or to servile to them was at play.
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What? You think you NEED someone in your life to 'complete you' or some other healy-feely happy-hippy New age horsesh*t? There is alone and loneliness. Choose ye well and fear not. You can ALWAYS choose to become part OF society at your whim. Use them as ye will.
Being a Magician is a selfish lifestyle.
Being a Magician is a selfish lifestyle.
I hardly think that the path of the magician is, outside of a Thelemic context and even then, a selfish lifestyle. Rightly understood, on the magical path one attunes oneself to the energies of the macrocosm and the microcosm and in so doing notices ever subtler levels of interdependence within the universe which reveal ever profounder levels of responsibility. That magic that limits itself to some narrow construction of "self" that excludes all of society and humankind from its scope has not yet attained the full splendor of which it is capable.
With that said, I do agree with you that we do not need anything or anyone to "complete" us; we are in fact, already complete, but do not realize it.
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Now, to offer some helpful reading materials, I suggest Liber 777, found here: http://www.artofhack...oh_intro_mg.htm[/url]
http://www.esoterica...n/abramelin.htm
http://www.esoterica...n/abramelin.htm
I agree with the Liber 777 suggestion, though I doubt how useful the Abramelin book will be in this case. I doubt the original poster has either the time or the resources to conduct a 6 month operation, and that this is what would be most helpful in this situation.
I'm sorry if this post comes across as too pushy; I do appreciate your input and ideas.
Take care,
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Or take a look at Light in Extension, an online Magical Journal or Words From the Wind, an illustrated philosophical blog.
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Actually, what prompted the infidelity was nothing I did or did not do. My ex has turned out to be a bit of a narcissistic complusive cheater. In fact, I had predicted months ago that she would cheat on her new husband as soon as she moved to her new duty station-- I was right. Of course, she denies it fully but I've seen the evidence.
Having said that, the aim would be to remove the narcissistic characteristics from her, so that she could see who has really been there for her (me) and not these various guys she's cheated with.
Having said that, the aim would be to remove the narcissistic characteristics from her, so that she could see who has really been there for her (me) and not these various guys she's cheated with.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:56 AM
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Actually, what prompted the infidelity was nothing I did or did not do. My ex has turned out to be a bit of a narcissistic complusive cheater. In fact, I had predicted months ago that she would cheat on her new husband as soon as she moved to her new duty station-- I was right. Of course, she denies it fully but I've seen the evidence.
Having said that, the aim would be to remove the narcissistic characteristics from her, so that she could see who has really been there for her (me) and not these various guys she's cheated with.
Having said that, the aim would be to remove the narcissistic characteristics from her, so that she could see who has really been there for her (me) and not these various guys she's cheated with.
Thanks for sharing more detail, Der Eremit. My earlier comments were addressed to a larger class of cases of cheating and didn't take into account the particular details of your case.
In my own humble experience, I have found it very difficult (if not magically unethical) to impose change on others from outside of them. Perhaps the compulsivity and the narcissism are core kernels around which she has constructed her entire sense of self and personality. If the ingrained behavioural patterns that lead her to cheat are so intimately tied to her felt needs and sense of self, it is unlikely that there is anything you can do to change that. If she will change, the change must come from within her and in accordance with her own Will.
What is your fundamental aim, however? Do you want her to simply see that you were always there for her and not her amorous flings, or do you want her to see this and then return to you and remain loyal to you? If the latter, how plausible does this scenario seem to you? Magic can do a great deal, but it can only do so much. Perhaps it would be better to perform a ritual with the intent that both you and her be guided to what you truly Will, what will truly be best for you and most fulfill you and make you both the most happy and satisfied with your life.
These are just some humble suggestions for further lines of inquiry. Ultimately, this is your situation and it is up to you to decide what is best to do.
Take care and peace,
Adam
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For an Easy, Affordable Earth Pentacle: There's no need to spend $150 on an Earth Pentacle from a rip-off Occult shop. I've developed a way to make it for under $15! Simply pick up two Golden Dawn Earth Pentacle pins (select 6 inch 'Colossal' size) for $6.40 each and glue one to each side of a 6-inch disc of clay. Then paint the outer rim of the clay disc white and you're done! (If you wish, use a black paint pen to add your magical motto to the space in the rim of the Pentacle).
Or take a look at Light in Extension, an online Magical Journal or Words From the Wind, an illustrated philosophical blog.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:39 AM
Der Eremit said:
Actually, what prompted the infidelity was nothing I did or did not do. My ex has turned out to be a bit of a narcissistic complusive cheater. In fact, I had predicted months ago that she would cheat on her new husband as soon as she moved to her new duty station-- I was right. Of course, she denies it fully but I've seen the evidence.
Having said that, the aim would be to remove the narcissistic characteristics from her, so that she could see who has really been there for her (me) and not these various guys she's cheated with.
Having said that, the aim would be to remove the narcissistic characteristics from her, so that she could see who has really been there for her (me) and not these various guys she's cheated with.
Just make sure you do whatever you do because you like her, and not because you have become in need of her approval. If it is the latter, you just need to break away. (also I have not read much of the post. So please forgive me if my point is void)
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Posted 05 August 2010 - 01:36 AM
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You don't need to invoke a love aspect, you need a Mars aspect to find you balls and spine so you can dump the cheating slut.
You didn't bother to read the whole thread, did you? The individual in question is my ex-fiance.
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Just make sure you do whatever you do because you like her, and not because you have become in need of her approval. If it is the latter, you just need to break away. (also I have not read much of the post. So please forgive me if my point is void)
I don't just like her, I love her. I can't explain why. I've tried erasing her from my memory yet she continues to pop up in thoughts and dreams. I have tried ignoring her calls, yet she continues to call. I know now that I will always feel for her, whether I want to or not and whether she feels for me or not. It's nothing that has to do with any "approval" from her or whatnot. Although my methods may seem sneaky or underhanded to some, my intentions are pure.
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What is your fundamental aim, however? Do you want her to simply see that you were always there for her and not her amorous flings, or do you want her to see this and then return to you and remain loyal to you? If the latter, how plausible does this scenario seem to you? Magic can do a great deal, but it can only do so much. Perhaps it would be better to perform a ritual with the intent that both you and her be guided to what you truly Will, what will truly be best for you and most fulfill you and make you both the most happy and satisfied with your life.
I suppose the fundamental aim would be the latter. But it's not so much a matter of force, as showing her what she needs to see to make the change, showing her what she needs to see to be guided down the path that leads back to me. I don't want to "recreate" the past. The past was not as glamorous as it seemed. I want to create a new, brighter future between the two of us.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 03:08 AM
Let me add a recomendation for Isis also!!! I've only done evocations ,I've never done any invocations, so my expeirence is limited. Isis has always done me right though.
She is prone to dish out some tough love.
If this woman could ever possibly work for you, Isis can make her see your virtues and convince her to straighten up an fly right.
If the woman will never possibly work out, Isis is just as likely to slap you upside the head and tell you to move on with your life.
Aside from that my best advice is that you should treat the disease not the symptoms. What's causing her behavior?
Worst case scenario you could try to remove the feelings of love for this woman from your mind. You might drive yourself nuts doing that; but you might not too!
She is prone to dish out some tough love.
If this woman could ever possibly work for you, Isis can make her see your virtues and convince her to straighten up an fly right.
If the woman will never possibly work out, Isis is just as likely to slap you upside the head and tell you to move on with your life.
Aside from that my best advice is that you should treat the disease not the symptoms. What's causing her behavior?
Worst case scenario you could try to remove the feelings of love for this woman from your mind. You might drive yourself nuts doing that; but you might not too!
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 04:57 AM
Well I actually just got off the phone with my ex-fiance. I just finished chewing her out for yet another amorous fling. I'm sick and tired of watching her turn from the beautiful woman I thought she was into a complete and total slut. I've decided that's not the kind of person I want to be with. She's not the kind of person I want MY future kids to be raised around. Yes, I love her. I always will. But I know better now than to think things could ever be cordial between us. She's screwed around with one too many guys. She's told one too many lies. I'm disgusted by her. I never thought I would lose respect for someone I loved so much. I made the mistake of holding her way too high, and that's a mistake I do NOT intend to make again.
I'm still pretty centered on invoking Isis, but not in any operation aimed at my ex. Instead, I'm thinking of bringing Isis' favor into a new relationship of mine that's just began to develop.
I'm still pretty centered on invoking Isis, but not in any operation aimed at my ex. Instead, I'm thinking of bringing Isis' favor into a new relationship of mine that's just began to develop.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 05:05 AM
Der Eremit, i've got to say there aren't many people like you out there now. I applaud you for wanting to help the person you love, even after the infidelity. I don't think i could or would be as strong in your shoes.
Wishing you the best.
Wishing you the best.
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