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[Lenvdb]

I am a Sagittarius with Aquarius Ascending and Aquarius Moon.

I have Saturn in Aquarius, and Uranus in Virgo - but they are not opposing (Thank heavens!). I have Mars in Virgo conj Uranus strongly (1.2 orb). I also have Pluto in Virgo conj Mars - thus making a trio - Mars conj Pluto conj Uranus all very tight!

Then I have Venus and Neptune in Scorpio, both in strong conj. (0.08 orb)
I have Jupiter (retrograde) in Taurus trine Uranus /Pluto / Mars in Virgo.

Sadly I have Jupiter opp Venus / Neptune!!!
Does this mean I will either be spiritual or rich - never both?
:confused:

[xango]

I like astrology but have no clue what to do with this if anyone can help much appreciated thanks in advance .

Edited by xango, 30 July 2010 - 09:12 AM.

[Remedy]

Lenvdb said:

I am a Sagittarius with Saturn in Aquarius and Uranus in Virgo.
They do not oppose each othe rin my Natal Chart.
Saturn Trines my Midheaven and Uranus Conj Mars in Virgo orb1.25.

Jupiter (retrograding) in Taurus trines Uranus in Virgo.
Mars also conj Pluto in Virgo - all strong aspects.
I have Aquarius Ascending and Aquarius Moon.

Both Venus and Neptune are in Scorpio, conj at orb 0.08 - very strong - but Both Venus and Neptune opposes Jupiter in Taurus strongly too.

Gosh - is this why I am not getting rich?!!

There are severeal factors you need to take into consideration, like whats in your second house, what planet, what sign, where is the ruler of that house, what aspect does the planet in second house make, etc.

Venus conjunct neptune is also a cheat-aspect, especially that tight of a square. To know if YOU'RE the cheater or you will be cheated on in this lifetime depends on the aspect of venus conjunct neptunes, is it applying or seperating. If it is an applying aspect you'll most likely be the one cheated on in relationships. If it is seperating you do the cheating.

[Lenvdb]

Remedy said:

There are severeal factors you need to take into consideration, like whats in your second house, what planet, what sign, where is the ruler of that house, what aspect does the planet in second house make, etc.

Venus conjunct neptune is also a cheat-aspect, especially that tight of a square. To know if YOU'RE the cheater or you will be cheated on in this lifetime depends on the aspect of venus conjunct neptunes, is it applying or seperating. If it is an applying aspect you'll most likely be the one cheated on in relationships. If it is seperating you do the cheating.

Hello Remedy

I have Mercury in Retrograde in my 2nd house. Lilith is there too but is that important?
The ruler of my 2nd House is Saturn in Aquarius (29.36)

Thanks for the info

[Remedy]

Lenvdb said:

Hello Remedy

I have Mercury in Retrograde in my 2nd house. Lilith is there too but is that important?
The ruler of my 2nd House is Saturn in Aquarius (29.36)

Thanks for the info

As far as I can tell from the information you've given me I'd say that your income is stable. Capricorn on the second house can mean stability in one's income, but if saturn is afflicted it can mean being limited in some way to gain much income. Mercury in second house can mean that you have severeal ways of getting income, if it is in aquarius this inventiveness is increased more, if in capricorn stability gets a plus. But it is retrograde, meaning it will never express itself in a normal way. Then you have to look at the aspects of mercury, for example if it is opposite mars you're an impulsive spender.

Astrology is complicated, and you'll have to innertwine every aspect with another factor in the horoscope else it doesn't make sense and you'll get faulty specifics.

[Lenvdb]

Thanks for this - nope Mercury in Capricorn is a single situation - not in any other aspects at all - no opposites, no trines N O T H I N G...

I guess I am lucky then!
Wish I had Jupiter there, but Jupiter is in Taurus....suppose to be expansive in my house of material stuff...house, car, etc
Trining Uranus/Mars/Pluto in Virgo.

Another interesting trine is Saturn and Moon in Aquarius Trines my Midheaven in Libra.

So I also have a Triple conjunction: Pluto/Uranus/Mars in Virgo
I have a Lunar Conj in Aquarius: Moon + Saturn
I have another conj in Scorpio: Venus + Neptune

I have a sextile:

Venus + Neptune in Scorpio sextiles Pluto/Uranus/Mars in Virgo

BUT I have a square:

My SUN squares Mars/Uranus/Pluto
Gosh - I could do better if these energies trined!!
This is my only square.

[marsovka]

If anyone is willing to do short reading i am all ears

Wrong chart



Btw i never got those green red blue lines what they mean what their color means acctually

[yipe]

I have no idea what this stuff means. I tried learning about astrology waaaay back, but I never really got beyond a few basic characteristics of the sun signs and how they tend to interact. If anyone feels gracious enough to bestow a quick explanation upon me, I would be endlessly grateful.

It sure looks.... lopsided... Is that important?

[marsovka]

yipe said:

I have no idea what this stuff means. I tried learning about astrology waaaay back, but I never really got beyond a few basic characteristics of the sun signs and how they tend to interact. If anyone feels gracious enough to bestow a quick explanation upon me, I would be endlessly grateful.

It sure looks.... lopsided... Is that important?

easy to read
Most of the planets are in fixed and mutable signs so it gives some sort of balance you lack earth on the other hand but anyway you won't have any problems in life in the material aspect


Sun jupiter, neptun and merkur are in your second house, you are orinented towards the material security and jupiter will give you a lot of help in that sence the real problem is neptun the planet of ilusion you can become too much greedy or gamble with your fortune and push your luck since it is in sagutarious . Your pain will be mariage and long term relationships probably conected with the need to posess your partner or your inability to dedicate and stay faithfull in one relationship or viseversa

The moon is in your third house means lot of creativity and beginings but also lot of unfinished projects it is also in 11 sign means your friends are above all together with your cominuty and pretty much coldness . Your representation before the ladyes is smooth and full with eloquence.

The woman you search the first thing you search at her is the feeling you get of being concted and familiar, but also she has to be good at sex unpredictable and mysterious.

The reason why are you with the occult is saturn in 12 and in scorpio the most occult sign couplet with pluto in 12 too .
This is at glance and fast typed reading

Sorry about the english is not my native language

I forgot uranus in 1 you can be quite unpredictable and sometimes described as crazy and fucked up

[marsipan]

[TOLKA]

marsipan said:

The moon mansions are rarely spoken about in natal astrology so I thought I'd show you this. Its based on your Moon Mansion. Although I am an Amateur astrologer Im afraid when it comes to Moon Mansions in Natal I am no expert, I only deal with them Electionally, so I simply found this for you I cannot take credit for it.

Purva Ashadha
"the former undefeated"
13°20 - 26°40 Sagittarius
Deity: Apas, goddess of waters
Symbol: a basket used for separating grain from the husk
Shakti: the power to invigorate or energize
Basis Above: strength
Basis Below: connection
Result: to gain the sea upon wishing for it

Purva Nakshatras, as mentioned before, are concerned with concepts and ideas. Purva Ashadha’s deity, Apas, is the goddess of waters. In this context it means water as flowing. Purva Ashadha people are invigorating and inspiring. They like to feel connected. Water is what invigorates us in the body. When we are dehydrated we feel de-energized and uninvigorated; flowing water remedies this. These people have great luster and charisma. They use their natural strength to bring people together for a cause. Is it no surprise that Hitler has this Nakshatra as his Moon’s asterism. Because it is "the former undefeated", these people tend to succeed quickly and success and victory. This is also a highly creative Nakshatra with a lot of sexual potency, so they tend to attract romantic partners and friends that help them win their goals. Other prominent people with this Nakshatra are Johnny Depp, Ernest Hemingway and Cher.

http://www.buzzle.co...-astrology.html

[marsipan]

TOLKA said:

The moon mansions are rarely spoken about in natal astrology so I thought I'd show you this. Its based on your Moon Mansion. Although I am an Amateur astrologer Im afraid when it comes to Moon Mansions in Natal I am no expert, I only deal with them Electionally, so I simply found this for you I cannot take credit for it.

Purva Ashadha
"the former undefeated"
13°20 - 26°40 Sagittarius
Deity: Apas, goddess of waters
Symbol: a basket used for separating grain from the husk
Shakti: the power to invigorate or energize
Basis Above: strength
Basis Below: connection
Result: to gain the sea upon wishing for it

Purva Nakshatras, as mentioned before, are concerned with concepts and ideas. Purva Ashadha’s deity, Apas, is the goddess of waters. In this context it means water as flowing. Purva Ashadha people are invigorating and inspiring. They like to feel connected. Water is what invigorates us in the body. When we are dehydrated we feel de-energized and uninvigorated; flowing water remedies this. These people have great luster and charisma. They use their natural strength to bring people together for a cause. Is it no surprise that Hitler has this Nakshatra as his Moon’s asterism. Because it is "the former undefeated", these people tend to succeed quickly and success and victory. This is also a highly creative Nakshatra with a lot of sexual potency, so they tend to attract romantic partners and friends that help them win their goals. Other prominent people with this Nakshatra are Johnny Depp, Ernest Hemingway and Cher.

http://www.buzzle.co...-astrology.html

Thank you.

In Vedic I have a Jyestha moon, which would be more accurate to choose?

[Azum Dinin]

This is a good idea - watching people interpret personally relevant charts is a great way to learn how it's done.

This chart is set up a little differently from the others in this thread, but it's got all the same stuff. In the center is the aspect circle, where significant angles between the forces (see below) are highlighted, indicating how the forces involved work together. Outside that is the zodiac ring. Note that the Vernal Point (marked VP, it indicates where the sun is on the Spring Equinox) is set to 5 degrees Pisces rather than 0 degrees Aries - this chart uses the Sidereal Zodiac, based on the positions of the actual constellations, rather than the Tropical Zodiac, which uses seasonal cycles to define the signs.
Outside the wheel of the zodiac are the forces: some of them represent the location of planets, others the location of comets, geometric points, stars, and the center of the galaxy. This aspect of the chart tells us what, and, when combined with the wheel of the zodiac, how.
Finally, the outer ring is based on earth's axis of rotation rather than the ecliptic plane wherein the planets and the Zodiac reside. The sky is divided into twelve states (State of Mind, State of Security, State of Surrender, et cetera). In this chart, horizons were marked (ascendant and descendant), as were the zenith (uppermost part of the sky) and the nadir (directly below you). This makes four segments, and each is divided evenly into three. (This house system is called Porphyry.) While the planets and signs tell us what we express and how, states tell us in which facets of our life do we express those things.

When I first gaze at my chart, I look to three important factors before considering anything else: the sun, the moon, and the ascendant. In my chart, the Sun is in Mercurical Cancer (the second decan* of Cancer is attributed to Mercury) in the State of Security, the Moon is in Martial Pisces in the State of Reputation, and the Ascendant is in Solar Gemini (and it's always in the State of Self, being part of the house arrangement). Thus from my chart you can correctly induce that my self-expression [Sun] veils itself, as by the shell of a crab [Cancer], in order to feel safe [Second House]. The fact that Mercury is closely conjunct my Sun, and that both are in the Decan of Mercury, indicates that I accomplish this by becoming very cerebral. This finds support in my ascendant - I feel natural expressing myself through the differentiation and exploration attributed to Gemini, and I find myself in this process [Decan of the Sun]. Finally, my Moon reveals the way I view emotions: I pay attention to how the attitudes of other people influence my own emotions [we all life in the same ocean - Pisces], tending to be easily influenced by ambient emotions, and at times I feel particularly driven to change the contents of this feedback loop [Mars Decan]. Finally, the fact that all this takes place in the State of Reputation resonates nicely with the fact that I'm a psychologist.

*The signs of the zodiac are split into thirds, each attributed to a different planet. The Decans correspond with the Minor Arcana of the Tarot as well as to entities of the Goetia, and they can be helpful in interpreting positions on the Zodiac.

Obviously, there's still a whole lot more left to interpret, but I may go into more detail later.

[TOLKA]

marsipan said:

Thank you.

In Vedic I have a Jyestha moon, which would be more accurate to choose?

Ok well both are kinda Vedic so that isn't your problem its which you follow Sidereal or Astrology.
Ah. The do I use Sidereal or Tropical debate. (Wets fingers, rubs temples, knows deep down this post will go horrible wrong.)

Basically it is much to large of an arguement to get caught up in and would take a good few pages to explain, also if I gave you links, they would be so long you would never read them. So I shall simply sum it up.

Vedic is usually done Sidereal, so was Tropical originally as they were the same thing. Effects were linked with stars. The effects were linked with seasons. In Tropical, it is based on seasons. In Sidereal it is based on stars. The stars have shifted from the dates, thus an arguement for which to use was born, either the fixed dates the effects were observed, or to move the measurements with the stars. In other words was it actually the stars that caused effects? or were the effects just linked with stars to make it easier to work out, and now should be moved accordingly to different stars.

As both are Vedic if you want to do it Sidereal your Jyestha Moon I believe would be the correct. However Tropical it would be the previous given.

Most people tend to use Sidereal these days, I myself did for a long time as it seems more scientific and everyone likes to think that science and astrology are one, but nowadays I use Tropical as I have found it more accurate.
I cannot tell you which to use. Vedic is an old system, whether it should be corrected by Tropical or left as Sidereal is an on-going debate.

Perhaps which description sounds more right to you may be a key to which you would choose to follow.

Edit: Actually I'm not sure summing it up worked that well without making it slightly inaccurate. I've decided to just give you a link to the system debate.
http://www.astrology...altropical.html
^coincidentally any link that you look at will try and persuade you one way or another.

[marsipan]

Hmm I think tropical is more accurate for myself also. I usually seperate astrology and science, I believe it's more of a spiritual method.

Thank you for the explaination and link TOLKA, I really appreciate it.

[saturninus]

Isn't anyone going to say something about my chart? It was done by a professional.

[TOLKA]

saturninus said:

Isn't anyone going to say something about my chart? It was done by a professional.

Well you would have thought that when someone made this thread, people were going to want their charts read wouldn't you. lol. but no-one seems to be doing them.

It takes ages to do a chart, but your chart is somewhat confusing. For example are you actually born a minute before midnight? Or is that supposed to be midday which is the time most people use on a date that they aren't sure about the specific birth time.
^YOU SHOULD ANSWER THIS BEFORE ANYONE DOES IT PLEASE

Anyway, although I am not getting roped into the reading of everyone's chart, as it took me a while to find yours at all, I will give "SATURNINUS' CHART" here again. Assuming the before given time for birth was correct.



In short. Someone please do this, or I'll feel guilty and end up doing it myself, and I really dont have the time. Plus as already said I am only an amateur Astrologer. I've only used the planets and nodes here to keep it simple for you.

[marsipan]

I'm an amateur in astrology, and I have a difficult time with charts that aren't from astro.com.

Saturninus, you might want to create an account there and upload your chart here. Also in astro.com, there are several sections with many descriptions for each aspect/placement found within your chart.

[TOLKA]

marsipan said:

I'm an amateur in astrology, and I have a difficult time with charts that aren't from astro.com.

Saturninus, you might want to create an account there and upload your chart here. Also in astro.com, there are several sections with many descriptions for each aspect/placement found within your chart.

That's a point. Astro is good. Alabe.com also gives a free reading and you don't have to enter your email which you do on some of them. At the end of the day a planet placed and aspected a certain way means a certain thing, whether your reading is on here or on there will give the same answers.

[saturninus]

No way, my astrologer got my natal position down to the hospital.